Loftus-Delusion by David Reuben Stone
John W. Loftus wrote a book a while ago claiming that he was once an authentic Christian, who was also a preacher, but through a series of events, he wound up not only walking away from the ministry and Christianity, but has also become an avowed atheist.
I actually do not like bringing up John’s name here because he is so into having people critique him, or his book that he labels people like myself “fleas.” He unfortunately believes that if someone negatively reviews his position or his book, they do so only because they want to ride his shirt tails to success, or the limelight. He believes this and takes his cue from atheist Dawkins who essentially coined the term.
However, what I have recently come across has brought a smile to my lips. When I first sent a copy of my book – The Anti-Supernatural Bias of Ex-Christians – to him (as a courtesy since I had spent 110 pages reviewing his book), he told me that my book was “lame,” and had “no substance.”
That did not really bother me at all. What bothered me is that he simply set my review aside without responding directly to it. Apparently, Loftus believes (at least with my book) that if he approached it with the attitude that there was really nothing there to respond to, that would take care of it, no further comment needed.
Since then, I have entered into several discussions with John on Amazon.com and have found that he does the same thing there. No matter what is stated to him, rather than respond to comments made, he prefers to simply make generalizations or declarations about the comments. He will also completely ignore cogent points made to him, preferring instead to go around the comments altogether, in effect redirecting the conversation.
As stated, I thought it was just with me, but quite by accident I came across a website by David Reuben Stone he created called “The Loftus Delusion.” What is interesting is that Stone has also published a book by the same name and believe his book is a careful, insightful, and defininite rebuttal to Loftus’ position.
I have ordered the book (available through Amazon) and will offer a review of it in the near future. Stone sent Loftus a courtesy copy of the book and asked him (Loftus) to read through it, offering a critique of it, in the interest of open dialogue. Loftus did so (or says he did), and offered a critique of it on his own blog. What I found extremely interesting however is that true to form, Loftus’ made sweeping generalizations like Stone’s book ”is not a well planned out book,” or “It’s really too bad I didn’t even bother to follow it, as I think most readers won’t. For there is nothing about the ID thesis I find compelling at all, and it does not lead reasonable thinkers to conclude anything other than that some trickster god exists,” or still, “It’s just that I have lots of reasons for thinking it’s not worth it, so I didn’t” referring to why he did not bother to deal with Stone’s arguments against Loftus’ position.
I then began to see that this is how Loftus deals with things of this nature. On one hand, he is attempting to project the demeanor that to really address my book’s comments, or Stone’s book is beneath him (Loftus), and it’s almost through a type of sleight of hand (except with words) that he casts disagreement off to the side. He is attempting to make people believe that the folly of mine or Stone’s arguments are so obvious that anyone with half a brain would see through the arguments. However, it is all too clear that Loftus is doing nothing more than sidestepping issues.
Loftus has no answers and certainly no adequate answer at all for an honest critique of his books. Sure, if you travel over to Amazon.com, search for his books and read through the comments, an overwhelming majority are fully in favor of what John Loftus has written. However, it is more than interesting to read comments by Edmund G. Lowrie, who seems to be fairly unbiased in his review, and yet even he comments that some of Loftus’ arguments are simply “silly.”
John W. Loftus and his buddy atheists are militant in their attacks of Christianity. They do not attack Islam, Hinduism or religions of that nature. They attack Christianity and they do so with a vengeance. My own book (Anti-Supernatural Bias) has its share of negative reviews, thanks to atheists who pretend they have read it, but their comments are so general, they could have been reviewing any Christian-themed book out there! One reviewer made the comment that a much better book than mine to read would have been Dan Barker’s book (in which he also claims to have been a Christianity evangelist who left Christianity). The problem of course, is that my book is nothing like Barker’s book. If truth be told, why would the reviewer recommend Barker’s book since it was essentially like Loftus’ book? He obviously compared mine to Barker’s, yet other reviewers denied that this is what he was doing.
It’s a game these people play. They believe if they can pan a Christian-related book that critiques or questions one of their own, then people will not buy it. If people do not buy it, then they will not read about the holes in Loftus’ analysis of Christianity, and why he thinks he was one to begin with.
Regardless of what Loftus or any other atheist thinks, he needs to get off the “Iwas a Christian, but no longer” train. He was NEVER a Christian. He merely acted the part. He did things Christians do, but according to Jesus’ own words, John W. Loftus was not a genuine Christian, since there was absolutely no new birth, or spiritual transaction, which Christ speaks of in John 3. Loftus has admitted as much, yet refuses to back off on his claims. I guess it’s profitable wearing the “ex-Christian” badge on your sleeve.
It’s really funny in a way. Though Loftus fully rejects Christianity, preferring to believe that no personal God of any kind exists, he certainly does not mind making money off the subject, does he? In truth, he’s no different than the charlatan evangelists who appear on the TV, or we hear on the radio. After all, they are guilty of panhandling for Jesus Christ. John W. Loftus and his ilk are merely guilty of using Jesus Christ to panhandle for themselves. In the end, there is really no difference, because both groups are making their money off of Jesus Christ and Christianity, while both are also pretending that they are altruistic in their motives.
John W. Loftus is not only not altruistic in his motives, but people are beginning to see that he is completely dishonest in his reasoning, his thinking and his conclusions about Christianity. Loftus needs to wake up and stop claiming to have been something he was not. That won’t happen, since it would drastsically affect his wallet, negatively.
If you would like to keep abreast of the running debate between Loftus and Stone, I recommend checking out Stone’s website at:
Stone not only shows Loftus for who he truly is, but makes it impossible for intelligent people to miss the fact that Loftus has no response, but prefers to pretend that he has no interest in what Stone has written.
Sorry John, but that’s not going to keep working. Unlike what you actually believe about yourself, you are not a genius who does not need to stoop to respond to arguments you believe are beneath you. People are realizing that it’s a facade, and that you in fact have no answer at all, and your attempts to brush off Stone’s arguments, mine or anyone else’s is merely a smoke screen that shows you for who you are – a fake.
The militancy of the atheists who hang around Amazon.com is obvious.
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