What Does the Bible Say About Israel Today?

May 25, 2011 at 11:05 AM 13 comments

Ezekiel 36 – 39

There is a good deal of talk today about peace in the Middle East.  There is also a great deal of acrimony where Israel is concerned because of this alleged peace process.  Insults and vitriol are routinely placed at the feet of Israel because of their alleged unwillingness to foster peace with the Arab nations that surround her.

I expect this talk from the world.  I don’t expect it from people who call themselves Christians, yet this is increasingly becoming more of the norm.

People do not realize how they contradict themselves.  On one hand they say that Israel controls the foreign policy of the United States.  They say that “the Jews” control the media.  On both counts, they are wrong.

Logically, if “the Jews” controlled the media, there would obviously be far less acrimony toward Israel than there is today.  Instead, what do we have in the world?  We have a tremendous sympathy toward Arabs and Muslims and particularly the world’s collective heart goes out to the “Palestinians” within the Land of Israel.  The world believes they have gotten a raw deal and the fault lies with Israel.

Yet, Israel – or at least “the Jews” – controls the media supposedly.  If so, how could Israel have allowed the tide to turn against them?  People who believe that “the Jews” control the media obviously also believe that certain editorials that allegedly reveal the deep, dark secrets of Israel’s misbehavior, have managed to squeak those editorials in under the noses of “the Jews” that control the media.  Does this even seem logical?

Whether it’s The New York Times, The Washington Post, or some other news outlet, it seems to me that the overriding percentage of articles that deal with Israel and the “Palestinians” are radically in favor of the “Palestinians,” not Israel.

In fact, if we look closely, we realize that at least in some cases, there are individual Jewish people who own and/or operate many of these media outlets.  If so, why in almost all cases, are they totally opposed to Israel itself?  Why are they not opposed to the “Palestinians”?  There have been too many cases of managing editors (Jewish) who have come unglued with others because of their support for Israel.  Many secular Jews do not want Israel to have what she has, and they believe she should give up what she has so that the world can finally come to a peaceful solution to the Middle East problem.

In fact, many Jews fully believe that if Israel would simply give the “Palestinians” what they want, then peace would be at hand.  Why do they believe this?  Because these (secular) Jews do not want to see another Jewish holocaust take place.  They do not want to see a repeat of WWII under Hitler’s anti-Semitic regime.

Jews like George Soros – who incidentally worked for Hitler during WWII pointing the finger at other Jews – control a good portion of the media.  Jews like Soros have no love loss for the state of Israel.  They do not care whether it exists or does not exist, although when push comes to shove, they would prefer that it did not exist in the Middle East.

Soros and other secular Jewish individuals want peace with the Arabs/Muslims/”Palestinians.”  They are willing to throw the nation of Israel under the bus because it doesn’t matter to them.  These are the types of Jews who have control a large portion of the media.  It is not the Netanyahus who control what the media does.  It is the secular Jewish person, who has managed to position him/herself so that they can slant the news against Israel.  They believe that if they do that enough, the world’s eye will not look favorably on the nation of Israel and Israel will then be forced to give up what they have now.

This is obviously a huge risk, because people like George Soros are still Jewish.  They could receive some of the backlash, however, in Soros’ case, his own history is clear:  he thinks of himself first and is absolutely not above turning on his own countrymen for personal gain.  The world does not think of Soros as Jewish.  They simply see him as a multi-billionaire who allegedly controls the Obama Administration.

Since it is clear that Mr. Obama is set against Israel, then we can also surmise that Soros is as well.  There is no way that Mr. Obama would go against Soros and because of that, it is certainly safe to assume that Mr. Obama is in line with Soros’ thinking and his objectives.

So this idea that “the Jews” control the media and implicitly try to turn the world’s sympathies toward or in favor of Israel is absolutely absurd.  Unfortunately, people will continue to believe it simply because throughout Ezekiel alone, we learn that Israel will be a sore spot to many nations until the end.

The reactionary viewpoint of many who on one hand believe “the Jews” control the media, while at the same time believe that Israel is fully in the wrong and the other nations are simply defending themselves is fully at odds with logic.  That doesn’t matter to most though, because too many people have read and believe The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a work that essentially states that the elite (read: “the Jews”) have had this plan to take over the world and have their fingers in everything.

It doesn’t pan out.  I fully believe that there is an “elite” that is trying to control things, but I also believe that the people who make up that “elite” consist of secular Jews AND secular Gentiles.  George Soros is one of them in my opinion, and we know that he is without doubt not in favor of the nation of Israel.

The people who make up the elite simply want to collectively rule the world and the Bible is clear that they will get their chance to do that.  In fact, out of this group, another will arise who will be the “8th of out of the 7” and the “11th out of the ten.”  This is clear in Daniel and while that used to confuse me years ago, I understand what it means now.  The Antichrist will pop up out of the group and will begin his grab for world dominance.

But let’s talk about Ezekiel 36 – 39 for a few moments because too many people who want to cast off Israel today seem to have no clue about this section (as well as numerous other sections) of God’s Word as it relates to Israel.

The first 35 chapters deal with aspects Israel’s history that has already occurred.  We know this because we can simply compare these first 35 chapters with human history and see the events as they unfolded.

However, when we arrive at chapter 36, things change.  We begin to look to the future.  If for no other reason, we know that here in chapter 36, God through the prophet Ezekiel begins to speak of a complete regeneration that will occur with the nation of Israel.

Most agree that this is yet future.  Unfortunately, there are those who allegorize Scripture at this point (solely because it is future), and immediately change from dealing with Israel to the Church.  So, up until and including chapter 35, they agree that the Bible is referring to Israel (and actual Jews in this nation).  But because of their penchant to allegorize or spiritualize Scripture, from chapter 36 onward, all of a sudden “Israel” becomes the Church, even though it is the same verbiage used, God is still speaking to Ezekiel the prophet, and He (God) is still talking about Ezekiel’s “people” who are Jewish.  This does not matter to those who spiritualize the text though because it makes perfect sense to them.  Does it?  Not really, but that doesn’t stop them.

Chapter 36 of Ezekiel begins by talking about the Mountains of Israel.  Here, God is not even talking about people.  He is talking about a physical place; a landmark, if you will.  The Mountains of Israel pretty much run vertically through just about the entire land of Israel, right through the center.

The Mountains of Israel have been the centerpiece of many events that have occurred in actual Israel’s true history.  The opening verses of chapter 36 tell us that God says to Ezekiel that he should prophecy to these mountains.  This is not allegorical.  This is literal.  Ezekiel is to prophecy to these mountains.

Notice, God does this because the enemy has spoken against these mountains (v. 2).  It is because the enemy has spoken against these mountains, God steps in.  God continues by stating, “Because they made you desolate and swallowed you up on every side, so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations, and you are taken up by the lips of talkers and slandered by the people” (vv. 2-3).

God is speaking TO the Mountains of Israel here.  Currently, the Arabs believe that they are entitled to this same land.  God says, nope, not on His watch.  Yet, these nations persevere and have been lobbing rockets into Israel for decades.  Every time Israel has given into them and “returned” land, these same Arabs simply move into that newly returned land and continue lobbing rockets.

God then states clearly what He plans on doing and He specifically says that He is referring to the Mountains of Israel, and the ravines and the valleys, and the areas that have become waste to the cities that many have forgotten about.  God is not talking about ONE Jewish person here.  He is referring only to the LAND that He gave the nation of Israel centuries ago.

Starting in verse 5, God proclaims that because of His jealousy, He has spoken against all the other nations because of the way they treated what – the Jews? – no, it is because of the way these nations have trampled HIS Land.  “Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel, and say to the mountains, the hills, the rivers, and the valleys, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I have spoken in My jealousy and My fury, because you have borne the shame of the nations.”  Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “I have raised My hand in an oath that surely the nations that are around you shall bear their own shame.  But you, O mountains of Israel, you shall shoot forth your branches and yield your fruit to My people Israel, for they are about to come.  For indeed I am for you, and I will turn to you, and you shall be tilled and sown.  I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, all of it; and the cities shall be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt,” (vv. 6-11).

Once again, God is speaking about the physical land areas of the nation of Israel.  He has grown tired of the many nations running amok, doing whatever they think they can do HIS Land.  This is the situation today.

It is not until verse 11 that God begins to speak of actual people.  But God confirms the fact that He has heard the taunts and insults of all the nations (and that currently includes the United States under the Obama Administration).  Because of this, God promises that the Land will have people in it and the nation that belongs there – Israel – will no longer stumble (cf. v. 15).

Then, beginning in verse 16, God confirms to Ezekiel that the NATION of Israel defiled His Land when they lived there.  Because of that, God poured out His wrath (v. 18) on “them” (the nation) and He scattered them among the nations because they became idolaters just like their neighbors.  It was God who scattered His people (v. 19).  He judged them.

Notice also that these same people – after God scattered them among the nations – continued to profane His Name.  Notice – and this is EXTREMELY important – that in verses 21-22, God says “But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went.  “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went.” (emphasis added)

The other day, someone read one of my blogs and wrote me saying that he was confident that today’s Israel is not the promised people.  I pointed out to him that his opinion has nothing to do with the truth of Scripture.  The reality is that God seems to be fulfilling the latter end of Ezekiel and because of that, He is concerned most with His Name.  The people of Israel are secondary.

What people fail to realize is that Israel is the only nation God ever created.  The rest of the nations simply happened based on Genesis 11 and elsewhere.  Throughout history, they’ve changed hands and names, but Israel was specifically created by God as part of His plan of redemption.  Though He has judged the nation and killed many people within it throughout Israel’s history, one thing He has never done is destroyed the nation itself.

Today, the secular nation of Israel is made up of Jews.  Just as Paul explains in Romans 9-11, simply being Jewish does not guarantee salvation, or that the specific Jew is part of the true nation of Israel.  This is the same with the Church.  Just because someone attends a physical church, does not necessarily mean they are part of the spiritual Church.  God has always kept for Himself a Remnant of believers within the nation of Israel.

Today, that Remnant is hidden within the true Church.  Once the Church is gone (through the Rapture, with the Jews in the Church who are Christians), God will then turn His attention back to the nation and people of Israel and begin refining them and, as He did many times in the Old Testament, will purge the rebels from the nation.  What He will be left with is a nation that is completely loyal to Him because their eyes will be open, and they will have realized their need for salvation that can only be found in Jesus.

Today, the nation of Israel is a nation, a group.  God continues to protect Israel for no other reason than for the sake of His holy Name.  He protects that Land over there for the same reason – for the sake of His holy Name.

Chapter 36 of Ezekiel continues to tell us that God began re-gathering His people back to that Land and He emphasizes the fact that He does this solely for the sake of His Name.  When He is through with Israel, He will have His loyal remnant and then “…I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the LORD,” says the Lord GOD, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes,” (cf. v. 23).

People mistakenly believe that God does everything He does in the Middle East because of the Jewish people.  Nope.  He does what He does for the sake of His holy Name.  He will USE the nation of Israel to return glory to His Name.  He will use the nation of Israel to show the world that the promises He made thousands of years ago to Abraham will be fulfilled and then will NOT be fulfilled in the Church, but through Israel.

The ONLY way God can restore absolute glory to His Name is by using Israel (both the land AND the people) to do it.  Why?  Because the nation of Israel brought dishonor and disgrace to His Name in the first place.  People who say that Ezekiel 36 onward is referring to the Church have no clue.

It is clear from Chapter 36 alone that God will restore His Name.  While there are many “tares” that look like they are part of the true Church, they are not.  The true Church has not, and did not slander God’s Name.  The true Church is already seated with Christ in the heavenlies (Ephesians 2) and therefore does NOT need refining or purging.  It was ISRAEL that slandered His Name.  The world will pay attention when Israel is restored to the Land and they ultimately turn in true worship to the very God they rejected 2,000 years ago.

You see, what is fascinating about Israel is that it changes with each generation.  To God though, He sees a NATION, not individual people.  God still holds Israel – the nation – responsible for slandering His Name.  He still holds that nation responsible for rejecting the Messiah.  Yet, the Jewish people alive today were not alive during the Old Testament times, nor were they the ones who actually rejected Jesus and nailed Him to the cross.  It was the nation of Israel through the leaders of Israel who did these things and it is the nation of Israel that has been judged because of these things.

But God – having judged the nation of Israel in the past – will restore this same nation (though the people in it change, it is STILL the same nation) – to their former glory.  Why will God do this?  Because He is planning on restoring the glory and honor to His Name that the NATION (through their leaders) of Israel destroyed long ago.

It is all very simple, except to those who are unable to see it.  These people either do not study Scripture or they tend to allegorize what they do study.  If not that, then they spend too much time reading secular news from the liberal media.  What has the secular news have to say about God’s Word?  Nothing good.

Folks, God WILL restore Israel’s glory and He will do it for one reason and one reason only:  for the sake of His holy Name.  That is the reason.  There is NO other reason at all.  It is not because He loves Israel and hates the rest of the world.  It is not because He loves Jews and hates Arabs.  This is not true.  He loves everyone equally.  It is because He will restore the lost glory and honor to His holy Name and He has been doing it on the back of the nation of Israel.

We will deal with this more as we go through the remainder of Ezekiel 36, and then get into 37, 38, and 39.  It is extremely important that people – especially Christians – stop looking at things through human eyes and begin to understand what God is doing and why He is doing it.

This nation of the United States, is on a crash course with God.  We are moving in the absolute wrong direction.  At every turn, Mr. Obama is throwing Israel under the bus.  In his last speech, he clearly said that Israel should return to PRE-1967 borders.  Then, he lied about that and said, “What I meant was that both the Palestinians and the Jews should decide their own borders.”  If he had meant that, he could have easily said that, but he did not say that.

God will not sit idly by and watch human beings divvy up HIS LAND.  It simply will not happen.  According to Ezekiel 36, God put Israel out of the land, but then began bringing them back.  “For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.  I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.  I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.  Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God,” (cf. vv. 24-28; emphasis added).

It seems clear enough that God is the one who brought the Jews back to the Land in 1948, yet people argue about this or that and say the U.N. shouldn’t have done this, or it was Britain that did it, etc.  According to Scripture, GOD did it and certainly He used nations and the situation, but ultimately, He takes credit for it.  The people who firmly believe that Israel (the nation) has no right to the Land better be extremely careful.  If Scripture is correct (which it is), then those who stand in opposition to Israel right now, are in effect, opposing God as well and that is not a good place to be.

Verses 24 – 28 describes a process that unfolds for us in the latter portion of Ezekiel 36 and especially chapter 37.  It is a process, not an instantaneous happening or event.

The first part of this began in 1948 when God began re-gathering Jewish people back to the Land.  Why did He do that?  Because it was the first step in Him ultimately returning glory and honor to His holy Name.

You people who are opposed to Israel had better humble yourselves and repent because you are sinning by standing opposed to God and His will.  If you are unable to see that, it is because you have never asked Him to open your eyes to the truth.  Please do so now.

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13 Comments

  • 1. Bonnie Culver  |  November 18, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    Modres…I believe as you do. Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and forgives our sins as we confess them. As a child accepts a gift with an innocent heart, we are to accept the gift of eternal life that he offers…without stings. As adults we make things much harder than they are. We try to turn the simplist gift into something difficult and demanding. I understand your intensity, but please let God control your answers to those who disagree with you, wheather they have valid logical questions or disagreements or a lack of scriptural resonses. . God wants to welcome those people who don’t know him. not turn them away with harsh words. Just saying..

    • 2. modres  |  November 18, 2012 at 5:28 PM

      It’s something I have been attempting to work on for some time. My zeal for God and His truth tends at times to overcome my love for those who are searching. Thanks for the reminder and if you’ll pray for me in this regard, I would appreciate it.

      • 3. Bonnie Culver  |  November 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM

        You are now on my prayer list. Thank you for the dedication and bravery you show by speaking out the truth. I can feel God smiling at you. :)

      • 4. modres  |  November 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM

        That is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  • 5. zainub shabazz  |  May 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    there is more then one interpertation of the bible when i and other read the book we have different interpertation and who is to say who is correct surely not you only GOD can tell us who is right and he says he will in the end.

    • 6. modres  |  May 26, 2012 at 8:45 AM

      I often hear people say what you say – that there is more than one interpretation. Unfortunately, the Bible says either ONE thing or it says NOTHING. It is not a book of magic. It cannot have more than one meaning. The goal is to find out what GOD has said, not what WE want it to say.

      I’ll hold my interpretation up against yours any day and you would undoubtedly come out the loser for any number of reasons. You likely believe that my comments are arrogant, but they aren’t. I’ve been STUDYING the Bible for over 40 years. You say you have “read the book.” Whoopee. Have you taken the time to compare passages of Scripture with other parts of Scripture? Have you done word studies and studied the culture in which the Bible was written? If you have not done these things, then you haven’t studied it and you have missed some extremely important things that would aid you in your study.

      It would be the most asinine thing in the world for God to allegedly write a book that no one would be able to figure out what it actually states until AFTER we die. How ridiculous is that?

      There are two ways to interpret the Bible and only one of them is the correct way:
      1) Allegorically
      2) Literally

      Most people who come up with wrong interpretations about the Bible do so because they have chosen to allegorize Scripture when it should not be allegorized. The BEST way to understand the Bible – as any book – is to allow the plain text of Scripture to speak for itself. This involves allowing the Bible to interpret itself as well. Too many people come along and understand the Bible only in spiritual terms (allegory) and in doing so, they completely bury the meaning under loads of allegory. There is no need for that at all. Others like to pick and choose this portion of the Bible or that one, instead of allowing the entirety of the Bible to speak for itself.

      Setting Israel aside though (since that’s what you were commenting on), I’m really only interested about one thing where you concerned. Do you KNOW Jesus as your personal Savior? Jesus said in John 14:6 that He is the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except THROUGH Jesus. In effect, Jesus was knocking EVERY other religion off the table as worthless. He is claiming to be the ONLY true Savior of humanity. Have you placed your faith in HIM or some other religious system, which is really nothing more than man-created?

      Romans 10:9-10 says “that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.” Have you done this? Do you BELIEVE that Jesus died for YOUR sins (and mine) and rose from the dead? In essence, if you do, then are admitting that you NEED someone to save you from your sins.

      The Bible also says that it is by GRACE we are saved, through FAITH and not of WORKS, so that no one can boast (cf. Ephesians 8:9-10). The truth is that salvation comes only by FAITH in the work that Jesus did. We can add nothing to salvation because salvation is totally GOD’s work. We cannot earn salvation at all. We simply put our faith in that work, trusting Him for the outcome.

      I sincerely hope that you have done this because if you haven’t, there is absolutely no point in dealing with anything else in the Bible. Get your life straight with God first because that is the most important thing you will ever do in this life.

  • 7. Chouli  |  February 6, 2012 at 4:09 AM

    Thank you for your views. I understand you must interpret my words in the way you have done. Feeling so close to a unique truth, it’s only natural that you should take my attack personally. It was, indeed, quite personal. I do not know how to detach the person from the tone and intention with wich s/he writes something. I still believe the tone of your post is not that of the interpretation of a text which, in your own words, must be done “in its most plain and literal sense unless the text demands something else”. You certainly seem to know when this “something else” is demanded, and throughout your post you show no appreciation of alternative interpretations at any point, except to clearly state “those are wrong, mine is right”.

    It is that tone that I essentially attacked in my comment, and as I said, I don’t know how to detach it from your personal intentions in using that tone. In my view, it is vehement. I could say today that you are not to blame for the impression you cause in your readers. However, you should be aware and accept that you may come accross as terribly partial and arrogant, even if you do not want to (I doubt anybody writes with that particular intention in mind). I will not apologise for voicing my opinion, though. That you consider I’m ludicrous for leaving infinitesimal space for doubt in my interpretation of the Bible or not… Well, I obviously disagree. It is a matter of belief, no doubt, in this case. The difference is that, to me, not allowing the reader with that space for doubt becomes a moral question, which you, believing you speak an ummoveable truth, will not accept as such.

    About the question of the media: you only mention American media and channels. It did not occur to you, either, that I do not live in the US, and that internet is my main source of information. Of course, your impact is not the same as that of a newspaper or a television channel, but you seem to forget those are “mass media”. Even if you do not belong to that group, you certainly are a medium. I understood your meaning of the word perfectly, by the way. I just meant to point out that one cannot say “this is said in the media and this my opinion is never heard” when one is saying that in a medium that opens them to the whole world. It is contradictory.

    There is something that frightens me a bit, and it is the way in which you inferred from my name that I am Arabic, or indeed a Muslim. You couldn’t be more wrong. It is amazing how your mind will look for confirmation of your partial views: at no point did you consider that someone with that opinion of your post could not be a Muslim… Interesting. Frightening, but interesting nevertheless.

    Finally, I must thank you for posting my comment after moderation, and for replying to it. I was a bit afraid that you would simply consider me a troll and I could not read your opinion after my comment. This only occurred to me after posting it, so I was glad to see you had replied.

    • 8. modres  |  February 6, 2012 at 7:16 AM

      If you read a statement like “nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom,” you might be tempted to take that one way. I have studied to know that when Jesus makes that statement in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21), it is a specific Jewish idiom. As such, it is a metaphor with a SINGULAR meaning.

      The plain text of Scripture is understood plainly, until you get to a part of Scripture where it OBVIOUSLY uses figures of speech. In such a case, instead of taking the words literally, it should be determined what the figure of speech means. That can only be determined by understand the culture, the history, the grammar, and the context.

      If I said, “I’m so hungry I could eat a horse,” only those people who did not understand that metaphor would expect me to actually eat a horse. Obviously, the meaning is that I am REALLY hungry and the figure of speech is used in place of it rather than simply saying “I’m really hungry.”

      If a person was not aware that I was using a figure of speech, they might be confused, or might want to place their own interpretation over my words.

      This is the problem with some people who study Scripture. They try to understand it using TODAY’S verbiage. They do not bother to try to find out what the phrases meant when the words were first written.

      I have written a number of books and one of them is “Interpreting the Bible Literally (is not as confusing as it sounds)” in which I go into a great amount of detail.

      Not to brag, but I have four degrees in the Bible, three of them advanced. I have put a great deal of time and energy into studying God’s Word and I am nowhere near finished yet. I’m STILL studying, STILL learning, and STILL endeavoring to understand His Word.

      I do not have it all sewn up and there are plenty of things I do not know.

      However, there are things that I believe I understand well.

      Arrogance is often in the mind of the beholder. If I say that Jesus is the only way to salvation, that is seen as an arrogant statement, yet all I’m doing is referencing His own statement from John 14:6. Of course there are plenty of people who would disagree with me about what He meant, even though I believe His meaning is obvious.

      Whether you are Arab/Muslim or not is totally beside the point. Your view – in my opinion – is completely in error. You have not taken the time to discern my meaning and you have said nothing in either of your posts that would NEGATE my understanding of Scripture. The only thing you have done is attack ME because you see me as arrogant. That is no basis for any type of discussion whatsoever. In that way, you are a bit of a troll.

      You have not taken the time to share FROM SCRIPTURE why you think my view is incorrect. You have simply attacked. Even in this latest post, though you have dialed back the vitriol, your position is still attacking.

      I don’t mind discussing things at all. What I do NOT enjoy is debate. It is futile and therefore pointless.

      I almost did not allow your first post simply because of YOUR tone.

      I can’t believe that some of my words “frighten” you. Why should they? Nothing you’ve said “frightens” me. It simply proves that there are people who do not share my opinion. How is that bad? It’s not.

      I would hope though you would find out more about me or at least be specific from God’s Word about why you believe my position is incorrect.

      If the problem rest SOLELY in my alleged arrogance, then you’ll simply have to deal with that yourself. I do not say that out of arrogance. I simply can do nothing to convince you that I am not arrogant. If that is the way I come across to you, then that is the way I come across.

      As I have said, you also seem quite arrogant to me, in that you would come out of left field for the sole purpose of attacking me because of the way I come across to you. That’s essentially all you have done.

  • 9. Chouli  |  February 5, 2012 at 6:28 AM

    What a load of vehement indoctrination. You’re the first one who should be more humble and look at your own contradictions. You claim there is no support of Israel in the media, yet here you are. Finding websites like you just reaffirms me, thank you very much.

    You have no idea of what God has done or does, I find it incredibly arrogant of you to feel you can decide whether things in this world have been “done” by God or not, and to consider that the rest of the world should agree with you in your interpretation. Hubristic, I’d say. I would never expect to understand God’s ways, not even through interpretation of the Bible. I would always leave the door open for a mistake in my judgement of God’s intentions, but you don’t. I find it at least shocking.

    Again, thank you. In spite of the shock. I guess I’ll never get used to bigotry.

    • 10. modres  |  February 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

      Speaking of arrogance and hubris, yours is little more than an ad hominem attack on me. You’ve essentially said nothing. You may wish to ask yourself how you can have such misplaced vehemence while lacking any semblance of wisdom. Then again, the two often go hand in hand.

      I gather from your name that you’re Arabic and possibly Muslim. That would certainly explain your position.

      Regarding the Bible and my understanding of it, your view actually denigrates God Himself. What you are saying is that the Bible cannot be interpreted or understood with certainty. That means that God cannot hold us responsible because we can’t know His Word. That’s utter foolishness. Absolutely ludicrous.

      The Bible should be read and studied in the same fashion as any other book – taken in its most plain and literal sense unless the text demands something else.

      Regarding no support in the media, I do not consider myself to be the formal media like CNN, HLN, FOX News, ABC, NBC, CBS, or anything else. I am merely blogging my thoughts. So when I made that statement, I specifically used the word “media” believing that people would have no trouble understanding my meaning.

      Feel free to write again when you actually have something to say. Leave the ad hominem attacks at home. You’ll be taken more seriously if you can do that.

  • 11. Michael Wilson  |  January 22, 2012 at 7:21 AM

    True followers of Jesus know that Israel belongs to the chosen people, the Jews. Catholic religions have always sided against Jews because they killed Jews or more like their ancestors. They fail to recognize the Bible verse “I will bless thows who honor you and curse thows who curse you.”. We have seen disaster after disaster when the U.S. is on the wrong side of the peace process. True followers of Jesus know the importants of siding with Israel. Stand firm for her and fight for her right to exist without the evils that impeads her borders. (please excuse my typing for my typing on a table is horrible).

    • 12. Meeeeeee  |  June 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      Revelation / 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. These must have been Gentile converts of the Judaizers, who were trying to impose Judaism, with its law and priesthood, on Christianity. Just as false apostles were disturbing the church at Ephesus, so at Smyrna men claiming to have become Jews but had not were plaguing the church. These two groups of heretics were beginning a corruption of Christianity which would eventually pervade the church for a thousand years, imposing an imagined apostolic succession and continuing priesthood, both of which would subjugate the ordinary people in the churches in a “Nicolaitan” hierarchy. As the false apostles were spoken of as “ministers of Satan” so these false Jews had become–unknowingly perhaps–a synagogue of Satan. THIS IS WHAT GOD YAHWEH SAID IN THE BIBLE, ARE YOU GOING TO STILL CALL THOSE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL TODAY “GOD CHOSEN PEOPLE AFTER HE SAID THEY ARE THE SEED OF SATAN.

      • 13. modres  |  June 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM

        You know, it is difficult to explain things to people like you because it appears to be almost impossible for you to see the forest for the trees…

        God has always dealt with Israel as a nation. Moreover, He has always kept for Himself a remnant, those who have not bowed the knee to other gods.

        Beyond this, if you will take the time to read through the book of Ezekiel, you will see this type of phrase repeated throughout:

        Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for My holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you went,” (Ezekiel 36:22)

        For the sake of My name I delay My wrath, And for My praise I restrain it for you, In order not to cut you off,” (Ezekiel 48:9)

        For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another,” (Ezekiel 48:11)

        I am not doing this for your sake,” declares the Lord GOD, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your ways, O house of Israel!” (Ezekiel 36:32)

        These are merely a few examples. There are MANY prophecies in Scripture that have not been fulfilled yet, but will be one day. Ezekiel 38-39 speaks of a Northern Invasion led by Gog of Magog who – with other nations – will attempt to invade and overthrow Israel. This has not occurred in history yet however, when it does happen, the text clearly states that God and God alone will fight for Israel. Why? Not because of anything Israel has done. Not because Israel are supposedly the “good guys.” It is SOLELY because of the sake of His Name that He will defend Israel.

        God made promises to Israel and whether or not they abide by them does NOT mitigate the fact that God will uphold His end of the bargain. Even though Israel has dragged His holy Name through the mud and made His Name an epithet among the nations, God will stand for Israel FOR THE SAKE OF HIS HOLY NAME!!! Do you get it?

        I doubt it. Too many people like you look at Jews when you SHOULD be looking at a NATION. The synagogue of Satan noted above is ONE particular place where Jewish individuals had given themselves over to other gods. This does not indicate that ALL Jews are like that anymore than SOME within the visible Church are merely PROFESSING Christians or follow a false teacher, etc., and therefore represent ALL Christians. Your logic – such as it is – is seriously flawed.

        If you will take the time to thoroughly read the Hebrew Scriptures and THEN jump to the New Testament, you would – I hope – have a far greater understanding of the many judgments that God will YET pour out on the nation of Israel just as He did with the first group led out by Moses from Egypt. Many came out of Egypt and many were destroyed because of their constant rebellion. Yet, God NEVER destroyed the entire nation of Israel. He always kept for Himself a Remnant and will take the FINAL Remnant out of Israel, purifying them through the coming time of Jacob’s trouble.

        It’s all there in the Scriptures. Stop picking and choosing a few verses here and there. Let Scripture interpret Scripture and in order to do that, you’ve actually got to read the ENTIRE Bible and study it, comparing one section with another.

        Revelation 2:9 speaks of ONE particular church (out of the seven listed). Note that not all the churches were alike. They were different. Some were praised for certain things, while others were condemned for their practices. Yet, you superimpose your view on Scripture believing that though that particular “synagogue of Satan” was at that one particular location – Smyrna – you generalize it to mean that ALL Jews are of the synagogue of Satan.

        If you want to believe your Replacement Theology or whatever it is that you believe, feel free, but don’t come here with a few proof-texts thinking that have proved your case. Far from it.

        By the way, I would fully disagree with your other assertion that these were Gentile converts to Christianity. It appears that they were Jews – both inside and out – who became Christians, or at least pretended to be Christians. They wanted Christians to BE Jewish in practice and that created the problem. This is exactly why Paul says that not all Israel is truly Israel. Not all Jews are true Jews. Just because they came from Abraham’s seed does not mean that they are true Jews with respect to faith in God. This is why many were killed by God in the Old Testament.

        It is his religion that makes a Jew a true Jew, not simply being born of Abraham.

        Many Jews in Smyrna had begun to ignore their religion – Judaism – given to them by their fathers. They were ethnically STILL Jewish, but not religiously.

        God has NOT destroyed or ignored Israel, the nation. If He had, that tiny nation would have been obliterated by her enemies a LONG time ago, yet there she stands.

        People need to learn what the Bible says.

        God WILL fight for Israel and He will do it for the sake of HIS HOLY NAME. Amen. Are you FOR God or AGAINST Him? It would appear as though you are standing in His way.


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