Ellen G. White IS Seventh-day Adventism

October 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM 5 comments

I’ve written a number of articles here on the sect/cult of Seventh-day Adventism and those, along with what I’ve written on the New Age receive their fair share of comments, many of which are repetitive.  It seems as though many SDAs like to come out of the woodwork to impose their opinion on me regarding Seventh-day Adventism.  They’re certainly entitled to their opinion, but they need to back up, take in the entire scene and realize that at least some of what they say makes no sense, given the fact that Seventh-day Adventism is what it is in the world today and how it came to be in the first place.

By far, the most oft-repeated comment I receive from current Seventh-day Adventists has to do with the admission from them that even though they are part of the Seventh-day Adventism sect, they do not (emphasis on “not”) necessarily follow the teachings of Ellen G. White. Let me try to keep this short and succinct even though this is a very broad subject.

It needs to be tacitly understood that without Ellen G. White, Seventh-day Adventism would simply not exist.  To say that a person is part of this sect/cult while denying that he/she follows the teachings of Ellen G. White is fully disingenuous on their part. They would disagree, but the reality is obvious.

History tells us that Ellen G. White was, at the very least, a co-founder of this movement.  She is also acknowledged by most within SDA to be a full-fledged prophet; someone who is believed to have spoken God’s Words to humanity.  As such, Seventh-day Adventism rises or falls on her teachings, for better or for worse.

People who belong to SDA need to get it through their heads that if not for Ellen G. White, they would not be referring to themselves as members of the Seventh-day Adventism sect/cult.  It’s really that simple, whether they can see it or are willing to admit it at all.  This fact is really undeniable.

To deny following White, yet remaining part of Seventh-day Adventism is really like ignoring the teachings of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young while remaining a Mormon.  It’s impossible.  While an individual within Mormonism might not be aware of all that these two founders taught, that, in and of itself, does not excuse a person from essentially believing in the system they created.

I realize that within the past few decades, there have been attempts by some within Mormonism to move away from Joseph Smith’s teachings, the fact that they call themselves the “Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” really does little to nothing to dispel the fact that their roots are still tied to Mormonism.  They seem to be kidding themselves.

Because Mormonism has unique doctrines related to Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, God, salvation, and more, it is impossible to be a member in good standing without acknowledging these doctrines that originated with Smith and Young.  While Mormonism has attempted for years to pass itself off as merely another Christian denomination, it fails due to the inherent and stark differences between Mormonism and orthodox Christianity.

This same truth applies to Seventh-day Adventism, whether the folks within this sect/cult are willing to admit it or not.  If they believe they truly do not follow White’s teachings, then the rationale for remaining part of the SDA movement is suspect. They would say the same thing about someone who was born and raised Roman Catholic, but then realized what it honestly means to become a true Christian, yet remained within Roman Catholicism with all of its trappings.

My wife was born into and lived a Roman Catholic most of her life, until just a few years prior to when we met.  She actually officially became a Christian during a Catholic Bible study when the words of Ephesians 2:8-10 literally jumped off the page into her heart.  She realized then that all of the trappings of Roman Catholicism meant nothing because she had not yet come to know Jesus in personal terms.  Her faith being activated, she received salvation and left Catholicism.

SDA also has unique beliefs, which fully set it apart from (and in some ways, against), orthodox Christianity.  I realize there are many apologists for SDA who disagree with me, but Ellen G. White’s words speak for themselves and as someone who has many of her books as well as books written about her and her beliefs, it is not as if I have not studied the issues at hand.  I don’t take the words of those who write books attempting to negate White’s teachings.  Though I have some of those, I also go directly to the source, White herself, in determining what it is that she taught, and whose words, are still believed by the bulk of SDA individuals.

Within orthodox Christianity, there are many true denominations.  Most of these denominations differ over the non-essentials of the faith.  Someone believes that musical instruments should not be used in worship services, so they seek out a denomination that believes along the same lines.  Another person seeks out a church and/or denomination that utilizes hymnals as opposed to a church where the worship is more modern, with drums, electric guitar, and full orchestration.

Other aspects of denominational variance deal with how often communion should be observed, or what type of water baptism should be administered.  In essence, orthodox Christianity is made up of groups of worshipers from many denominations who resolutely agree on the five fundamentals of the faith at the very least.

  1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).
  2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).
  3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7;
    Hebrews 9:12-14).
  4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).
  5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20).

Certainly, the above listed fundamentals do not contain all that make up Christianity, but this is as good as any place to start because they incorporate the basics upon which everyone must agree.  For people who do not believe that Jesus was and remains God in the flesh, they have wandered from orthodox Christianity.  Mormonism falls under this as does Jehovah’s Witnesses and many other sects or cults.  They have a different understanding of who Jesus is and to them, while He may be “a” type of god, He is not “the” God of the universe.  If a person is not able to accept the facts concerning Jesus, then how is it possible to actually be in relationship with Him?  It isn’t.

For those groups where a question arises as to their understanding of the blood atonement of Jesus on the cross, a question mark overshadows their entire system.  Without a correct understanding of what Jesus accomplished through His perfect sacrificial death, there is no salvation.

Most cults/sects add to the atonement process and deduct certain attributes from Jesus that qualify Him as God.  Regarding atonement, they believe while Jesus shed His blood for us, making it possible to receive eternal life, humanity also has a responsibility.  We are to work to maintain our salvation and this is done by what we do, say, and think.

Most within groups like this will say that they do not work to maintain their salvation, but simply work to do the right things out of a love for God.  A close inspection of their doctrinal beliefs and original writings helps us to gain the understanding that in most cases, what they are telling us is simply not true.  Either they are lying to us, or they truly do not understand the difference themselves.  For them, salvation has two parts  God provides and we receive, but we work to continue to maintain the salvation He has provided for us.  By failing to continue working to meet God’s alleged requirements, we are in constant danger of losing the precious salvation that He provides for us.  In that sense then, humanity actually plays a part in the salvation process, which I believe is completely anti-biblical.  Either God has done and does it all, or He has done nothing.  Many would have us believe that God meets us halfway.

Ephesians 2:8-10 point out that it is by grace alone that we receive salvation.  It is not fulfilled or completed through our works because if it was, there would be room to boast (in our efforts).  God has purposefully designed salvation so that all glory goes to Him.  He does not share any of it with anyone, including humanity.

There are those groups who believe that while the Bible contains some truth, it does not contain all truth.  Because of this, they look to the writings found within their own group.  Mormonism looks to “another testament of Jesus Christ,” which is the book that was allegedly translated by Joseph Smith from golden plates that were taken back up to heaven when Smith completed his mission.  The underlying rule of thumb is that if the Book of Mormon and the Bible are at odds, Mormons are to go with the Book of Mormon.

This same truth applies to Seventh-day Adventism, in spite of the protestations by SDAs everywhere.  As I have stated, without Ellen G. White, there would be no Seventh-day Adventism, so too, without her writings, those within SDA would have nothing except the Bible to refer to for learning.  Though many within SDA will tell us that White’s writings are merely commentary and should be taken as such, the truth is far different.  There are many individuals who spent their life within Seventh-day Adventism and have come away from it because the Lord opened their eyes to the untruths upon which it is predicated.  There are some links at the end of this article to people such as I’ve described.  Feel free to check their pages out and even ask them questions.  I’m sure they would be happy to take the time to respond to your queries.

I have well over 1,000 books in my library.  Many of the them are commentaries on the biblical text.  Others are resources of varying kinds.  I do not look to any of these books as being on par or even above Scripture.  They are simply commenting on aspects of the Bible.  I also do not have a library made up of books upon which I agree.  I have books written by liberal scholars, conservative scholars and the like because it helps me understand what people believe about the Bible and why they believe it.

As stated, Ellen G. White is considered by most within Seventh-day Adventism to be a prophet.  As such, her writings are revered as authoritative and looked upon as instruction and guidance in Holy Writ.  Because this SDA or that one says he/she does not look to White for instruction does not negate the entire system of Seventh-day Adventism that was built upon that instruction.

The Clear Word Bible – while not mandatory for Seventh-day Adventism – intersperses White’s teachings throughout and makes no distinction between her teachings and the text of Scripture.  This is the type of teaching that leads to cultism and error.  By including White’s actual teachings within the body of Scripture, it is clear that for those who have created The Clear Word, as well as those who use it, White’s teachings become synonymous with Scripture.

The denomination I attend was not built on any of the books in my library. Within my denomination, people do not hold up other books that are allegedly on par with or greater than Scripture, that were written by human beings.  The Bible is the center of our belief system and from it, all doctrine, study, and understanding is gained.

The trouble with groups like Seventh-day Adventism, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or even Catholics is that their particular founders all created something they say is equal to or better than God’s Word.  This keeps them out of trouble within their groups when they come to a part of the Bible with which they disagree.  They can point to their founder(s) and state that he/she further fleshed things out for greater understanding, in spite of the contradictions that are often apparent in those teachings.

Within Roman Catholicism, the Bible is revered, but so is the alleged authority of the pope, as well as the tradition of the church.  It is a three-pronged mode of determining truth.  In the final analysis, it is the Bible which stands alone as the final arbiter of truth, or it doesn’t.  Either the Bible is God’s Word or it isn’t.  If it is, it needs nothing else to come alongside of it.  If it isn’t, then anything is just as authoritative as the Bible claims to be.

I would truly hope that those within groups like Seventh-day Adventism would earnestly endeavor to find the truth.  You may believe you have found it.  That’s between you and the Lord.  Just do yourself a favor…don’t remain with SDA because of pride.  Your spiritual life and eternity hangs in the balance.

I believe there are likely many people within Seventh-day Adventism who really do not know all that SDA entails.  As such, they are essentially deluded into thinking that they have truth, when in reality, they don’t know enough about it to know that deep within SDA is a system of lies and fabrications.

This is no different from Mormonism.  Only those within the upper echelons gain more truth.  Masonry is the same.  If you seek the truth, you will find it.  Please be willing to ask questions about what you believe and why you believe it.  It never hurts to revisit these things.

I’m not writing this blog out of a sense of superiority (I have the truth and you don’t! ~ neaner, neaner!).  I am writing it with a sense of deep concern for those whom I believe to be in error and that error is keeping them from authentic salvation.  THAT is why I am writing this.  If you disagree with me, then so be it, but I hope it will be based on your serious study of White’s Adventism and not preconceived doctrine that you were taught by those within your group.

You owe it to yourself to learn the truth, even if that means that the truth will pull you away from the system of error you are currently involved in.  Certainly, your eternal soul is worth that, don’t you think?  I hope so and may God bless you as you seek His truth.

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5 Comments

  • 1. Deacon Dan aka Daniel Webster Lowell  |  October 7, 2012 at 6:42 AM

    Too many of us think that Truth is the result of actions. i.e. it’s cloudy and the air is full of water droplets therefore it is raining. Unfortunately that would make Jesus a result of actions because He told us He was the Truth. Truth is, Jesus is God! He told us to love God with all we got and to love our fellows as we love ourself. The original Keep It Simple S(tupid)(inner).

  • 2. tobi  |  October 7, 2012 at 5:10 AM

    for long i have been reading and doing reseach about e g white and hw sda was found.. 4 ten years nw.. am nt an adventiat but to my research 80cent of her prophecy has come to pass.. and her teachings are from God.. she is dead and gone and u here sre writting rubbish against her.. many pple do anyway cos of their foolishness.. eg white his never the founder of sda she is just a co=helper to the founder and God used her.. go and preach about christ and stop posting rubbish

    • 3. modres  |  October 7, 2012 at 11:25 AM

      Okay, so you want me to believe that even though you say you are not a Seventh-day Adventist, you have – over the years – become an unofficial apologist for Ellen G. White? That’s like me – who is not a Mormon – coming to Joseph Smith’s defense.

      You’ve decided that “80% of her prophecy has come to pass.” What do you base that on? How can you mathematically figure out what has and what has not come to pass? Moreover, isn’t the mark of a true prophet someone who gets it right 100% of the time, or are you merely saying that 20% is yet unfulfilled?

      I fully disagree that her teachings are from God. In fact, there are strong allegations that a good deal of what she taught was “borrowed” from others. It’s called plagiarism. Most importantly, I do not see how her teachings line up with Scripture. If you do, that’s your opinion, but certainly I’m not the only one to think this about her.

      I will post whatever I want to post here. You are under no obligation to read it. One thing I would suggest though is that you use proper grammar instead of pretending that you are “texting” your response to me. If you can’t do better than this, your comments will not be posted.

      Not only is most of the world going to hell in a hand basket, but the dumbing down of society is nearly complete.

      The bottom line for my post is that all Seventh-day Adventists should know what they believe, why they believe it, and where from God’s Word it is gleaned.

  • 4. Lester  |  October 6, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    The largest stumbling block in SDA is the Sabbath day worship and if you don’t keep the Sabbath you will go to hell for eternity! I also remember reading her books but over 40 years ago. I think she was one that thought the earth would be destroyed by fire and the whole universe also. Only the elect would live forever in the spirit heavens. I don’t have a copy anymore so not sure on that. I know some SDA folk that study the Word like true Bereans and hold Jesus as God in the flesh.However they argue that works is not their focus and then come down on JW’s all the time. The JW’s argue that SDA is steeped in legalisms! On and on it goes and we must be sure the plank is out of our eye before we try to remove any splinters out of others. I commend JW’s for their door to door ministry that has saved lives in the natural sense calling 911 on many emergencies. Oh for the day that they would preach just simple salvation of Christ the Messiah Son of God and how He manifested our Father in the flesh 2000 years ago and is maturing a people to do the same thing now and in the future! Also, I rejoice in the freedom and deliverance of many out from Calvinism, another sect/cult!

  • 5. Danny Haszard  |  October 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Jehovah’s Witnesses are in *breach of the preach*.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses proselytizing is a false Gospel. (Gal. 1:8)

    Straight up doctrinal facts on Jehovah Witness.
    The Jehovah’s Witnesses teach preach that Jesus had his return aka second coming October 1914,then they spin all sorts of doctrinal embellishments on that date.
    They teach only 144,000 go to heaven,on and on and on with made up man made dogmas……They have infighting,crime and child abuse as bad as any church out there.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses promotion of their Watchtower sect has the net effect of stumbling and turning people off to the real Gospel.
    Jesus said: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte; and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves” (Matt 23:15)

    Danny Haszard born 3rd generation Jehovah’s Witness


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