Rick Warren Continues to Backpedal After Implying that Christians Worship Allah

November 20, 2013 at 6:32 PM 8 comments

The so-called blending of Christianity with Islam

The so-called blending of Christianity with Islam

When I wrote my book titled “Chrislam” in March of 2012, I did so mainly because of Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church in California. What I have I have consistently noticed since then is that in spite of what I (and others) have reported, Warren spends time in denial about his coming together with Islamic groups.

Let me state without equivocation that Warren is free to associate with anyone he chooses to associate with and if he so chooses, he can bring groups from his church together with groups from the Muslim community and they are free to enjoy one another’s company as people. There is no law against that and in fact, it’s a good way to open the doors to spreading the gospel to Muslims. But is that what Warren has done?

What I find rather fascinating is that since 2008, when Warren gave the invocation for Obama’s swearing-in ceremony in Washington, DC, he chose to refer to Jesus as “Issa” in that prayer. What’s wrong with that, you might ask? Many people tend to believe that “Issa” is simply the Arabic way in which Muslims speak about or recognize Jesus. It’s simply His Name in the Arabic tongue.

The problem though is that when Muslims speak of “Issa,” they do so in a way that denigrates Him. Muslims do not believe that Jesus was/is God. They do not believe He died on the cross or actually rose again from the dead. They do not believe what orthodox Christianity teaches because they say that the Bible has been corrupted over time and therefore, it is lacking in integrity. They also argue that this is most decidedly not the case with the Qur’an.

Again, this is what Muslims believe about the Bible and about Jesus. To them, Jesus is not equal (much less greater than) to Muhammad. Jesus is lower than Muhammad. For Jesus then, “Issa” is not merely a name that is equal to the Name Jesus. It is a label that Muslims attach to Jesus that removes from Him, His deity.

Given that this is truth, why then would Pastor Rick Warren use the label, “Issa” with all its intended meaning? We can only assume it was to not “offend” Muslims by making them feel included. The problem of course, is that based on their understanding of what “Issa” implies, Warren essentially wound up removing from Jesus, attributes that are surely His.

All of this ties into a program called “King’s Way.” It is Saddleback Church’s informal program that has been trying (and continues to try) to bridge what it considers to be a gap between Christians and Muslims. In spite of the fact that one of the pastors on staff at Saddleback (Abraham Meulenberg), along with adjunct professor of Muslim Studies, Jihad Turk (Director of Religious Affairs for the Islamic Center of Southern California), put together King’s Way and taught the program jointly to people at Saddleback, Warren continues to deny that any sort of document exists, and there was never a plan to bridge any gap between Christianity and Islam by teaching that both groups worship the same God.

Interestingly enough, the King’s Way document that Rick Warren says does not exist is “a five-page document jointly drafted by Abraham Meulenberg, a Saddleback pastor in charge of interfaith outreach, and Jihad Turk, director of religious affairs at the Islamic Center of Southern California, a mosque in Los Angeles. The document was unveiled at a December, 2011 dinner at Saddleback Church attended by approximately 300 Saddleback members and members of Southern California’s Muslim community. At the dinner a Powerpoint presentation described the document, and the King’s Way outreach effort which inspired the document, as ‘a path to end the 1,400 years of misunderstanding between Muslims and Christians’.”

Something is tragically wrong here. If Warren wants to allow pastors on his staff to create a document that is said to be a “path the end the 1400 years of misunderstanding,” that’s up to him. It is clear that a banquet occurred and a document was revealed and discussed. Once it became known (initially through a newspaper article in California), it appears that the cover-up program began.

Because both Christians and Muslims trace the beginnings of their religions back to Abraham, it is believed that both groups worship the same God/god. It simply isn’t true at all. Besides this, the God of Judeo-Christianity goes back to Genesis chapter 1. We could argue that though Christianity itself did not begin until shortly after the time of Christ’s ascension, Islam didn’t begin until the AD 600s. In spite of this, the teachings of Islam have done their best to trace their history all the way back to Abraham and Ishmael. Scripture says that Isaac, not Ishmael was the son of promise and through which the Messiah would eventually arrive to this earth.

If King’s Way document is something that was created jointly by a pastor at Saddleback and a Muslim, then it seems to me that there is no spreading of the Gospel at all. What has been done is that two individuals got together and came up with what they believe are similarities between two completely different religions. They have chosen to focus on those things, rather than the differences.

Of course, in my view, the differences between these two religions mean the difference between eternal life and eternal death. In the effort to focus on any commonalities, the opportunity to witness to Muslims has been completely lost. This ought not to be.

Does Rick Warren not love Muslims enough to share with them the Good News that Jesus Christ came to live a perfect life in order that He would fulfill the law and give Himself up as a sin-offering for humanity? 2 Corinthians 5:21 tells us that “He made [Jesus] who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

No one else did that, including Muhammad. This bridging or blending of two opposing religions helps no one. It creates confusion and allows Christians to believe that it is more important to simply “be friends” with someone than to present information that offers a person eternal life. That is wrong on so many levels.

Rick Warren needs to get back on track, if he ever was on track. His mentor was Robert Schuller (Crystal Cathedral) and the gobbledy gook that he passed off as Christianity. These men are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They do nothing to help people find the truth. In fact, everything they do keeps others from finding it, just as the Pharisees did during Jesus’ day.

To Rick Warren I say without equivocation that I do not worship Allah. I worship the God of the Bible, One God in Three Persons; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, who all have unique personalities as expressed throughout Scripture. Allah to the Muslim is a one-dimensional deity that in no way compares to the God of Scripture.

Mr. Warren, you do no favors by withholding the truth to those who are dying, but maybe you yourself are dying. How can you take Jesus and allow Him to be denigrated by agreeing with those who in no way believe that Jesus is God?

What you are doing is unconscionable. Folks, we need to be in prayer for Rick Warren and others like him, who, because of fame, have come to believe that they dare not offend anyone by presenting the truth about Jesus Christ. That truth is the only thing that can save them from themselves and hell.

In his efforts to bridge gaps, all Rick Warren is doing is creating opportunities for people to remain spiritually dead.

Entry filed under: Islam, Religious - Christian - End Times, Religious - Christian - Theology, salvation.

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8 Comments

  • 1. Bonnie Culver  |  November 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    I did not know that about Rick Warren. Thanks for the info. Our Church had a big event about him and we resgistered in a class about handling money. I must say it was very interesting and he had quite a few good ideas. I would have thought my paster would have checked into his teachings before he supported this event. Maybe not. Anyway…thanks for the time and effort you put into your blog. I read what you say and always ponder it. 🙂 Keep the faith.
    Bonnie

    • 2. modres  |  November 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM

      Thanks Bonnie.

  • 3. Lester  |  November 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    Dito Sherry! Very good rant! All this goes much deeper than Pharisee-ism Fred. The roots of “religion” in this world are the fabrication of man’s traditions and doctrines! In the 1st century Gnosticism from Babylon, Egypt and even the Jews infiltrated the early fellowships of Christ. Paul saw it happening before his own eyes. Then comes along Mani and Augustine was raised in the Gnostic way. He “joined” the Roman Catholic Church and brought with him many Gnostic ways. Then we come to Mohammad and his forming of a religion that believe it or not is very Gnostic! Rome has swallowed every error you can think of to keep the masses in it’s pocket! Then there is the new age movement that is also very Gnostic and accepts all religions of the world as God! Wheeew! What a mess! Most modern churches of Christ are allowing these errors in. They all take the Lord Jesus as an Icon to keep people in chains. If it were not so evil, Shuller and the others would be very silly and laughable. It’s a really big shew!
    The Word says all creation is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God! Romans 8:19. My transliteration,LOL! Not the manifestation of any church or religion but a manifestation of the body of Christ to dispel all this darkness and evil!

    • 4. modres  |  November 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      I agree, Lester. Satan is overwhelming this physical dimension from the spiritual realm just as the left is overwhelming America. It’s almost too much to keep track of, but you’re right that in the end Christ will truly dispel all darkness.

  • 5. Terry Farrell  |  November 20, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Thank you Fred for this succinct blog. It goes straight to the heart of the matter, namely the attempt by ‘Christians’ to compromise the ‘faith once given to the saints’ (Jude 3-4) and denies Jesus’ claim to be the ‘only way’ to God. Keep going for the jugular mate! God honours faithful men, like you.

    • 6. modres  |  November 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      Thanks Terry.

  • 7. Sherry  |  November 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    FTA: This bridging or blending of two opposing religions helps no one. It creates confusion and allows Christians to believe that it is more important to simply “be friends” with someone than to present information that offers a person eternal life. That is wrong on so many levels.

    OK, reading this greives me. Why? Because that is what the Church at Rome did by “christianizing” pagan worship and, to this very day, Christians use pagan symbols to worship God with, of which He warned the Israelites not to do, and of which is the very paganism Israel began to worship to which God judged them severely for. What happens is an ungodly admixture…a spiritual adultery…a disobedience to God’s Word…and, eventually a different Jesus is worshiped such on that holiday Christians revere such as the Roman Catholics worship. Instead of the Gospel winning, paganism won.Time may erase the pagan history of the Christ Mass with us, but not with God. 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 comes to mind. There is no way that I will ever believe that Paul would be referencing pagan worship by the Church in Romans 14.

    Sorry, but I just cannot keep quiet about this. Its heartbreaking to us who have seen the truth to watch this season be celebrated by those who should have known better (Protestant/Evangelical Church leaders-even from Luther’s day to this day). Its no wonder people think Christianity got its roots from paganism. Its OK if you don’t want to let this comment be published. I love you, dear brother, and I appreciate that you take my comments like this one with a smile.

    • 8. modres  |  November 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

      I tend to agree with you, Sherry. It happened when Roman Catholicism came into being and it is happening again with the rise of Islam once again.

      You said, “Its no wonder people think Christianity got its roots from paganism.”

      I agree. They confuse Catholicism with orthodox Christianity and see a connection between Catholicism and Mithraism.

      It took no time at all for Satan to not only plant seeds of paganism and doubt, but actual tares who would work within to overthrow Christianity. Fortunately, we know that the true (invisible) Church moves ahead and even the gates of hell will not be able to stop that advance.

      In seeing what is going on in the world, it is so very easy to grow frustrated and grieved. It should give us a greater desire to share the Gospel with those who are perishing.

      Thanks for your comments, Sherry.


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